Wednesday, July 19, 2006

Embryonic Stem Cell Research And The Pharmaceutical Industry

The final vote on the Embryonic Stem Cell Bill, as passed by the United States Senate, came down to 63-37 in favor of passage. Bush has promised to cast the first veto in the as of now roughly five and one half years of his presidency. As he most assurredly will do so, to the surprise of no one, that will be, for now, the final word. At 63 votes in favor, the Senate is four votes short of the two thirds required to override a presidential veto. Even at the unlikely chance that Nebraska Senator Ben Nelson-the lone Democrat to vote in oppossition to the bill- might come to his senses and vote to override the veto, that would still leave them three votes short. So there you have it.

So what is the reason for this? Is this really all about ethics, as the President and other opponents insist? Does any rational human being truly, honestly believe that the harvesting of embryonic stem cells for research, stem cells that will eventually be destroyed anyway (because they can only be frozen for a maximum of five years and remain viable), is tantamount to the taking of life in order to save it?

Many ardently Pro-Life Republicans do not believe so, including such figures as former First Lady Nancy Reagan, in addition to current Senators, Tennessee Republican Bill Frist, who is the Senate Majority Leader, Utah Republican Senator Orrin Hatch, Arizona Republican John McCain (who, evidently, temporarily forgot that he is supposed to be pandering to the extreme elements of the religious right), and a host of others. In fact, seventeen Republicans in all crossed party lines and voted with the Democrats on this issue.

And even this is not a true reflection of the depth of public support for embryonic stem cell research. According to the latest polling data, it is supported by 70% of the American public. Now that should be enough to override any potential Preisdential veto. But don’t hold your breath unless you look real good in blue.

So what is really going on? Even assumming that some of these people might honestly believe in the rightness of their cause, that they truly are bothered by the supposed moral dilemna posed by the ethics involved, does this account for all of them, or even of most of them, if any at all?

I don’t think so. In fact, I think they are all engaged in a shameful act of subterfuge, and that includes Bush. In some cases, including that of Nelsons, there might be some concern as to their positions with the voters in their states. But not to this extent.

I’ll come right out and say it. This has everything to do with the pharmaceutical companies. If embryonic stem cell research eventually yields cures for cancer, for Parkinsons Disease, for Alzheimers, diabetes, for paralysis-the list of potential cures seems neverending-then who stands to lose?

The pharmaceutical compaies, that’s who. The very people that are raking in billions of dollars in pharmaceutical drugs that mainly treat the symptoms, and rarely by comparison provide overall actual cures of serious diseases. If embyonic stem cell research leads to therapies that cure these diseases, how could this be controlled by the companies? Who would own the rights? After all, this would seem to amount to treatment by physicians, and follow up therapy. Pharmaceuticals might play a tangential role, in many cases an important one, but the overall effects, the most important treatments, would amount to direct care by hospitals and physicians, and as I said, follow up therapy. Ideally, this would eventually result in profound reversals in health conditions, and eventually total cures.

Then, the pharmaceuticals are left out. There is no further need for them, when it comes to treatment of these by now cured diseases. Thus, a potential loss of billions of dolars. So what are they to do? If they apply to the rights, if past experience is any guide, the therapies would become so expensive as to amount to a severe economic hardship, on any but the most wealthy, who might otherwise avail themselves of these therapies. The wealthy, of course, would probably get yet another tax break to make up for it.

Therefore, this is being held up, solely for the benefit of pharmaceutical company profits, and all this bullshit about the morals and ethics involved is nothing but a smoke screen, which is all too often the case. Add to the mix the confusion and outright lies about the viability of adult stem cell research from such sources as placentas and bone marrow, and you have even greater obfuscation.

The plain fact of the matter-these adult stem cells, for purposes of research, have been availiable for the last thirty years, and while they yet might lead to more advances, there is no valid scientific indication that the potential is any more than limited at best. Embryonic stem cells, by the same token, have only been used for research for the last eight years. 1998 was the first year they were completely isolated and availaible for research. It truly is a new frontier, with vast promise and potential. But it is being held up, under the pretense of religion and ethics, for the sake of company profits, in my opinion.

There is only one thing that can be done, and that is for the American people to stand up and shout, to make clear to their Senators and Representaitves that we, the vast majority of us, want this research to comence full spead ahead, and we want it to result in quality and affordable treatments and eventually, cures for diseases, with no piracy or unfair profiteering allowed.

But there is a vital first step that should first be undertaken. Look into the background of your Senators and Representatives. How many of them are supporters of the pharmaceutical industries? How many times have they voted for bills that are to the benefit of the industry? What is their voting records on health related issues? And, of course, how did they vote in relation to the Embyonic Stem Cell Research Bill?

Finally, here is the most important question of all. How much of their campaign contributions are derived from the pharmaceutial industry? You have a right to know the answers to all these questions. Especially the last one. If your Senators and Representatives receive a substantial amount of money from the pharmaceutical industry, and they tend to vote in favor of said industry, you can draw a logical conclusion that there is a correlation.

If they voted against this bill in support of embryonic stem cell research, you might well have your answer. You know then what to do. Let your voice, and your disgust, your anger, your outrage, be known, in no uncertain terms.

Of course, it goes without saying that George W. Bush is a strong supporter of the pharmaceutical industry.

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

This has everything to do with legitimizing abortion.

Rufus said...

I think it's probably related to the drug companies too. But, it's not for nothing that they pander to the religious groups. Most Americans don't vote. But, if you can convince that percentage who consider themselves to be born-again Christians that you're their guy, they will vote, and you can quite literally win an election on their votes. Reagan figured this out, and was the first to pander to the born-agains, and it's why you now have politicians on the house floor arguing about the will of God. The fact that stem-cell research could perhaps cure alzheimer's disease, which killed Reagan is the irony of ironies.

SecondComingOfBast said...

Rufus, that accounts for a lot of the Republicans nutty positions, but not entirely this one. Embryonic stem cell research is supporter by the vast majority of the American people, as I said in the past, by 70%, in fsct. There has to be another explanation, and I think I've hit on it. George W. Bush is nothing if not a shill for the pharmaceutical industiry.

SecondComingOfBast said...

Kephri-I recognize you from Voting Pagans, in fact I'm one of the moderators there. Glad to see you here. I understand you are a conservative. I'm mainly a liberal, but I'm independent enough that I recognize the wisdom of some conservative positions, and agree with them. On this issue, though, you and other conservtives are being made fools out of.

Do the research I suggested. Look into which politicians receive backing in one form or another from the pharmaceutical industry, and check their voting records on issues of importance to the industry-including this one.

This has nothing to do with abortion. On the same day the Senate passed this bill, it passed another bill which would outlaw the intentional creation of embryos for the purpose of then destroying them and harvesting their stem cells for research. The final vote tally was something like 99 to 0 or 100 to 0, or maybe 99 to 1.

In other words the bill that passed, and that Bush has now stubbornly vetoed, would only allow for the use of stem cells that have already been created, and would soon end up destroyed anyway. These embryos your conservative heros pretend to be so upset about are destined for the dumpster, ultimately to be either burned or tossed into a landfill, maybe to be eaten by rats. In the meantime, there are children, the elederly, and other Americans from all walks of life destined by George "Pro-Life" Bush who are destined by his act, of what I can only call calculated evil greed, to live lives of pain, sufferring, debilitation, and early death.

There is nothing about all of this that is "Pro-Life". This is everyhing about protecting pharmaceutical industry profits, with a little bit of superstition mixed in for extra seasoning.

autogato said...

Interesting position on that. I like your style of thinking on it. Really, it presents it from an economic viewpoint, not just one of religious fundamentalism attempting to determine our nation's laws.

SecondComingOfBast said...

Thanks, Autogato. And yeah, there usually always is a financial angle involved, religous fators are more often than not a handy smokescreen, and I think that is very true in this case.

Rufus said...

Of course, the good news here is that the bill just covers federal funding. So, the research will continue with private donors kicking in the money. I'm guessing that it won't be hard to find them either considering the possible benefits here.

SecondComingOfBast said...

That's true to a point, Rufus, but on the other hand would you want to invest a lot of money in something that might eventually be outlawed, given the right political climate and circumstances? Most people that invest money in things like this are looking for some kind of return, if in no other way than their donations being put to good use, as oppossed to being wasted.

That federal funding is a big incentive for researchers. More importantly, it's a big incentive for research institutions.

autogato said...

Did anyone see Michael J. Fox talk on this decisions? His arguments were good ones.

Frank Partisan said...

Really interesting approach, adding pharmaceuticals, to the evil empire.

SecondComingOfBast said...

Autogato, I haven't heard him lately, but he is a tireless advocate, for sure, and has even appearred before Congress. He is not as effective, though, as he should be, because people see him as a person with the funds to afford the best possible quality care.

I know that's cold comfort to him and other celebrities that suffer debilitating illnesses. But what people need to see is the literally hordes of people that are unduly sufferring, and thanks to this policy will continue to do so, who do not have the resources to represent their story to the masses, and who certainly can't afford the quality care necessary to enable them to live with some degree of dignity and comfort.

These are the people America needs to see, and to hear.

SecondComingOfBast said...

Renegade- Yes, it is, but you will seldom hear it brought up by political advocates, if at all. The vast majority of politicians are in somebodys pockets, so they can't really afford to point this out about another one. Therefore, they have what amounts to a "gentlemans agreement" that to do so would just be bad form.

That, by the way, is one of the real reasons, in my opinion, that John McCain is so reviled by so many members of his own party. You will notice since he has gone about trying to mend fences the last few years, he hasn't been quite as tenacous about his former stance on campaign contributions. It's been allowed to die a slow and private death.

For the most part, this is just another aspect of the "old boys club" that is the United States Congress. That old "glass houses" thing.

Rufus said...

Well, also states can pony up the money. I mean, it's not going to be easy. Federal funding is very important for science research- I imagine it would be like me doing historical work if no universities would fund it. But, supposedly there has been something like $5 billion committed to the research over the next decade, coming from philanthropists and a few states. It's not going to be as easy, and I'm guessing the fact that they can use nothing federally funded, not even a pencil, will be a pain in the neck too. But, at least, it's not going to be illegal.

SecondComingOfBast said...

That's great, I wasn't aware of that. Of course, however, this latest fiasco isn't going to be the last word. I expect in time somebody will file a lawsuit or start some kind of movement, etc., to put an end to in vitrio fertilization, and possibly to outlaw all kinds of embryonic stem cell research, regardless of the source of funds.

They will do so on the grounds that it amounts to the protection of human life at its most vunerable stages, that all human life deserves constituional potection of right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. That is of course where the oft use conservative phrase right to life is derived from.

It would also follow that old tried and true maxim, "give them an inch, and they will want a mile everytime".

autogato said...
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autogato said...

Paganism in Prson

Sorry, I had posted it above but the link didn't show. It's not realated to the posting, but thought you might find it interesting.

SecondComingOfBast said...

Thanks. Yeah, it's about Asatru, like I figured. It's popular with white supremacists. I might do a post about it, here the last few days it's been hard to find anything to post about, everything revolving around Israel and Lebannon like it's been, plus I've been preocuppied lately. But I'll get around to it in a day or two. Maybe I just need to take a breather for awhile.

Amberlee said...

I did my English 2 final on this subject...
And yes, abortion has nothing to do with it
Because any half wit could realize that no woman i going to say to herself "hmm...I really would like a baby, but goddammit! They need more stem cells!"

And besides, most of these embryos come from couples who were attempting In Vitro fertilization, and had about 16 embryos fertilized and frozen, but only needed 1 or 2 of them.

None of the existing stem cell lines today came from abortions.