Tuesday, November 11, 2008

The Republican Party-Where Should It Go From Here?

What the Republican Party needs to do in the aftermath of the last election debacle is more than mere soul-searching and finger pointing. The finger pointing is inappropriate. The soul-searching is unnecessary.

The Republican Party has been described as a three-legged stool made up of three different types of conservatives. There are those who are economic conservatives. There are others who are more concerned with social conservative values. Finally, the third leg is those who are foreign policy conservatives.

I think the more apt description would be three-legged cauldron. The problem is, the witches brew they have cooked up over the last thirty years is not exactly most accurately described as conservative. Yet, each of the three seems content to point fingers of blame at the other without looking in more than cursory detail (if indeed that much) at their own failings.

The economic conservatives have merrily raped the treasury over the course of the last eight years or more and have engaged in the kind of pork-barrel politics and corporate welfare policies that would make a Great Society Democrat blush.

The social conservatives have never met a constitutional amendment they didn’t love, whether it be pro-life, defense of marriage, or even one to prevent flag burning. They seem to love federalism except when federalism doesn’t give them what they want in every state of the union.

Finally, we have the foreign policy conservatives, who have always been the most immoderate and by far the less conservative of the three. They are arguably the biggest threat to the GOP. They are not one wing, but two, and they have been at war with each other for some time now. Since they are the worse offenders, but by no means the only danger to the conservative ideology of the GOP, I will tackle them first.

Bluntly put, the Republicans need to kick the Neocons to the curb. They are the cause of the widespread dissatisfaction with the Republican Party stemming from their Iraq War policies. Had we followed their lead to this day, what happened the last election would look like a razor thin margin of victory. Obama’s victory would have been of Johnson-Goldwater proportions, and the Democrats would probably have a solid sixty-two seats or more in the Senate. In the House, they would look more like a third-party joke than a major party.

The Neocon philosophy of war is textbook Kennedy-Johnson and even Truman philosophy. We saw how well all that worked out. It ruined Truman’s presidency, despite the esteem he is held in today, and it ruined Johnson’s presidency as well. It seems predicated on the proposition that if you establish a presence and fight a defensive war of containment, all will work out in the end-an end that never comes. North Korea and South Korea are still technically at war. Vietnam ended with our humiliating defeat and withdrawal. This is quite simply because we were never permitted to fight a true offensive, but relegated instead to defensive posturing only.

Nixon attempted to reverse this horrendous and fallacious policy but was hampered every step of the way by left-wing protesters and by an unsympathetic (to say the least) media blitz that portrayed us as the bad guys. In truth, by the time Nixon took office the damage was probably already irreversible.

The resulting take-over of the Democratic Party by the far left saw the migration of this incredibly naive philosophy to the Republican Party, where it took root and, nourished by the flames and gasses of 9/11, it asserted it’s power over the Bush Administration. It was a failed policy, just as it was in the Korea and Vietnam conflicts, and was reversed only by the adoption of the Surge, led by David Petraeus.

Truthfully, however, there has never been a foreign policy conservative of any authority since the days of the Hoover Administration. The closest of any note is Patrick Buchanan, who had no foreign policy authority in the Nixon Administration. He was a mere speechwriter. Such true foreign policy conservatives are unlikely to acquire any influence under any major party, and this is simply because the fuel that powers the foreign policy engine of the United States is the money found in defense contracts. You can only make so much money by funding weapons systems to defend the United States, so you have to invent boogy-men where none exist in order to “spread the wealth around”. You have to keep NATO years after it has outlived its usefulness and expand it into the face of national entities who have every reason to not want it there, and then you take their reaction as “proof” of its necessity.

This is not conservative by any stretch of the imagination, and it needs to stop. For now, however, it would be beneficial just to rein in the Neocons. They are off the charts. Well, remember, they were originally Democrats. By the way, I don’t want to hear anybody say that my use of the word Neocon is anti-Semitic. No it is not, and if you say that, you are being politically correct, something I despise from Republicans as much as I do from Democrats, if not more so.

The next thing Republicans should focus on is the economic conservatives. Their philosophy of lower taxes and less intrusive regulations is fine, and their recent burglaries of the state treasury in the name of corporate welfare under another name, atrocious as it is, should be a severe lesson for the party leaders as to what can happen when you have the wrong kinds of people in the wrong positions of power. The biggest thing they can learn, however, is the fact that some things just don’t play well. One of those things is their love affair with the philosophy of de-regulation. Nobody wants to hear it. That is just the facts, ma’am.

They should retool their message to insist on lessening regulations and making them less intrusive, more efficient, less burdensome, and less oppressive. Nobody wants to hear how they should be eliminated, and the term de-regulation smacks of precisely that. Sorry, that ship just won’t sail out of the docks-not in this day and age.

In a perfect world, there would be no need for regulations, and companies and corporations would act appropriately out of the greater good, due to a perception that it is in their own best long-term interests to do so. Unfortunately, we don’t live in a perfect world, and never will. Even if they could be convinced it is in their long-term best interests, far too many of them are concerned more with their short-term gains. It’s a dog eat dog world out there, so anybody that doesn’t fight fire with fire will just get burned. That’s just one reason to have some kind of regulations. Another reason for the federal government specifically to impose them would be that pollution, for example, doesn’t seem to care about state borders. A poison that is dumped in the Mississippi River somewhere between Missouri and Tennessee isn’t going to go away or stay where it’s at. It will float on down to Louisiana whether we like it or not. That’s just one example of why nobody buys it when Republicans preach the supposed value of de-regulation. It comes across as self-serving.

Otherwise, hey, let’s do away with all laws that punish any kind of criminal activity. If eliminating regulations on business and corporations will eliminate the need for regulations, well, I don’t know about anybody else, but I could certainly look forward to a world without murder, rape, or theft. Why outlaw such things when a desire for self-esteem and community respect would obviously negate the need for such laws?

Moving on to the third need for change, we peer within the social conservatives mindsets. I can sum this problem up with something I read somewhere else, but I don’t remember exactly who it was that said it, or where I read it. It is quite simply this-

“Not everybody wants to live in an Ozzie and Harriet world.”

Breaking that down into its various parts, not everybody cares that much about gay rights, the flag, or protecting the theoretical rights of fetuses within the wombs of rape or incest victims. Social conservatives need to understand that they do their various causes far more good by adopting postures that are more reasonable. Right to life amendments to the constitution, or aimed at protecting the flag, or incorporating the Ten Commandments in public schools and courthouses, just are not going to fly with the majority of Americans.

Finally, all Republicans need to do a better job at outreach to the various sectors of American society. For far too long now they have framed their cause around issues many people either see as relatively minor issues, or do not care about at all. Then of course, you have those who take the absolute opposite stance.

I hope I am not misunderstood here. I am not advocating that Republicans or conservatives abandon or even compromise their principles. They have already done that, and frankly, that is the cause of most of the problem.

There is nothing conservative about a foreign policy posture that seeks to be the guardian protector of the world, and there is certainly nothing conservative about nation building or in spreading democracy through force of arms. There is nothing conservative about the vast amounts of money funneled by way of defense contracts to feed an international machinery that is self-perpetuating for its own purposes.

There is nothing conservative about a domestic policy posture that rewards corporate malfeasance and the importation of American jobs with tax breaks and de-regulation, while engaging in profligate spending on credit.

Finally, there is nothing conservative about trying to ramrod constitutional amendments based on punitive means to change people’s behavior or to grant privileged status to a special class at the expense of others.

Conservatives are at their best when they promote the values of self-sufficiency, of small government with lower taxes and minimal regulation, and of respect for state’s rights-that last of which they have for far too long allowed the Left to frame as racist and reactionary.

There is not one single issue facing the country today that cannot be better served by a small government, low tax and relaxing of regulations approach, nor is there any problem the states can’t handle as well or better than the federal government, if they are only allowed to do so. Nor is it any business of a person in California if a woman in Kentucky can’t get an abortion based on the proposition that if she does not she might suffer from headaches or depression for a couple of months. Nor is it any business of anybody in Kentucky if a woman from California can get one just because she might not look good in a bathing suit for a while if she does not.

It’s not any business of some Baptist preacher in South Carolina if Mr. Sulu from Star Trek gets married to his male companion. Social conservatives need to get off this kick. This is not something to devote resources necessary for a constitutional amendment. It becomes less of an issue with every election, and will play even less well the next time it is used. If a gay couple moves in the house next door to me, I am relieved that they are a couple and not a single gay man who might be drunk and lonely one night and put me on the spot. Otherwise, I figure there’s a good chance at least one of them will make a good chess opponent. What they do with each other in bed is none of my concern. I also understand that whatever that is, they will do it with or without a marriage license. I am deeply concerned about animal abuse when it comes to gerbils, but that’s a different issue.

Finally, if somebody wants to burn the flag, as regrettable as that is, it’s not something I am going to lose a lot of sleep over. I figure the people that engage in such activities, as I’ve said many times, are only hurting their own causes with their actions with the majority of Americans. Since I oppose most if not all of what they stand for, frankly I have no intention of hindering them from making complete asses out of themselves.

We have the most unique country on the face of the earth, and I hope we keep it as is. The only way we can come close to hoping to do that is if at least one of the major parties realizes that we are special and unique for a reason. The further away we get from our original values as outlined in the constitution and the Bill of Rights, the further away we get from what made us great.

It’s bigger than mere capitalism, which is practiced to some degree everywhere. It’s more even than just democracy, which is in its pure form little more than mob rule.

It’s the concept of respect for both the majority as well as minority rights, and the concept of freedom in concert with the rule of law, along with the guarantees that neither the federal government nor the states shall impose its will on or against the people in those areas guaranteed by the founders to be off-limits, yet at the same time protected. It’s the concept that government governs best which governs least, yet is held accountable for doing what it has to do. It’s the ideal that the people make up the United States of America. The government is a mere construct, one which serves their will. It’s the concept that each individual state is in fact a sovereign state, bound together by certain constitutionally mandated prerogatives, yet at the same time, uniquely independent and free, as compared to, say for example, a former Soviet Republic, or a French Department, or a state in Germany or Mexico. All of these other “states” or regions are recognized as such only for the sake of administrative purposes. They have very little if any actual autonomy to speak of.

Besides, the more power an individual state has over its own internal affairs, when appropriate, the more people become involved in their state political matters. That is as it should be.

Finally, we should never forget what we stand for-“Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness”. Government can protect those ideals, though only to a degree. It can certainly never impose them. Think about it. How can you force somebody to live, to be free, or to be happy? All of the social engineering experiments in the world will never change that.

All government can do is protect people’s rights, and otherwise stay out of their way and allow them the freedom to do what they can do so long as they respect others and obey reasonable laws. That in a nutshell is what the Republican Party’s message should be. For the Republican Party to be successful from here on out in promoting the conservative cause is not that hard to do. Of course, they first have to actually be conservatives.

18 comments:

Frank Partisan said...

See this.

Joubert said...

As I've told you before, I'm not a fan of the neocons but, if we start purging the GOP, we'll end up with nobody.

I'm also not a fan of the religious right most of whom are former Southern Democrats who do not understand or appreciate the traditional Lockean liberalism of the GOP.

But we need all the factions to successfully oppose the socialism and collectivism of the Dems.

SecondComingOfBast said...

I'm not talking about literally kicking anybody out, Patrick, just realizing that certain policies need to be re-evaluated, at the very least. Plus, the GOP needs to do a much better job at explaining and promoting the benefits of their philosophy and how it is good for everybody, as opposed to how others tend to see it now.

The most important things the GOP stands for has already been kicked to the curb, such as Federalism, small government, etc. Those are the things that need to be highlighted and emphasized to people, and how that is the most legitimate path to a free society, by limiting, not expanding, the size and scope of government.

The problem is in the packaging. You've probably heard the old saying "it's the sizzle that sells the steak".

Too many people have been relegated to way too far outside the GOP diner to be able to smell the meat while its cooking. All they see is the matre'de looking down their noses at them while a bunch of fat, mostly old white people go in and out with their noses up in the air.

I know that's not the reality, but that is the image, and the image is what makes the sell, or makes impossible to sell.

Rufus said...

Okay, first off, I'm not a conservative or a Republican. But, I'm not really a liberal or a progressive either.

But, as you know, I live in a country where the Conservatives have gained more power than the Liberals after a long time of the Liberals dominating. What is really popular here is fiscal conservatism- the liberals spend too much money and steal nearly as much. So, people are sick of them. Where I think conservatives in general do well is in the belief in economic freedom and fiscal responsibility. What this means though is telling people that, if they want you to pass some big stupid project, it will cost this many dollars and we will have to get that money from taxes, so think about it. That's fiscal responsibility- not spending like a drunken sailor and begging China for a loan until payday. And that's where conservatives can dominate in the future.

But, here at least, nobody wants to pair that with the social conservatives who want to use the power of the state to enforce their religious beliefs. There's no real connection between Tories and born agains. 'Getting the government off our backs' means getting it out of our pants, too. So Stephen Harper has learned to keep his mouth shut about family values.

Lastly, there are no real neoconservatives here. Of course, it helps that Canada has such a small military. I disagree with you about offensive versus defensive wars- neoconservatives have been calling for much less restrained offensive wars for years in the pages of Foreign Review. But the idea that we can always bomb our way to victory if we just 'take the gloves off' is wishful thinking. Sometimes it works; sometimes it doesn't. And sometimes it's just stupid.

Neoconservatives aren't just former liberals; they're quite often ex-radicals who still believe in changing the world through violent revolution- social engineering with bombs. To say that they're at odds with traditional conservatism is an understatement. Mix them with people who think that the state should micromanage sex, and people like Bush who believe that the state should spend whatever money it can to soothe the needs of the populace, and you now have nothing like genuine conservatism.

So, cut out the dead wood- pump up the fiscal conservatism and traditional hostility to government meddling. If that means that you lose a few elections, so be it. Republicans need to stop caring more about winning elections than they do about genuine conservatism.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

I'll start by disagreeing.

The Republican Party does need to do some serious ideological retooling, but their foreign policy and national security agendas are probably the only two areas they shouldn't funk with.

Putting the vibrant foreign policy / national security discussions in the GOP between the realists (paleocons) and the democratic globalists (neocons) aside, where else are serious foreign policy / national security taking place?

Certainly not in the Democratic Party. Truman abandoned Eastern Europe to the Soviet Union after World War 2, and pursued no victory in Korea. Kennedy played nuclear chicken with the Russians after botching a coup attempt against Fidel Castro. Johnson continued Kennedy's deterioration of Eisenhower's far more sucessful anti-communism programs in southeast Asia until he was humiliated into cooking up the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, which after he then proceeded to fling conscripted Americans at the problem until Americans asked Nixon to put a stop to it. During the Carter administration, 14 nations fell to the spread of communism and Islamic radicalism overtook Iran. In the year 2000, the Clinton administration gave Kim Jong Il of North Korea a Michael Jordan-autographed basketball in exchange for a promise not to build atomic weapons with the nuclear reactors Clinton built for him a few years prior. In 2004, John Kerry proposed giving Iran highly enriched uranium "to see what they will do with it." We just elected a man who claims he will sit down with Ahmadinejad without pre-conditions but is scared shitless of FOX News reporters.

Nobody considers the Democratic Party to be strong on foreign policy or national security issues, and quite frankly Colombia can't produce enough cocaine to change that perception among the American people.

No. This is a frightening time. The last two times a clear majority of Americans voted "I don't give a shit about foriegn policy" we got World Wars One and Two. I hope Obama is the three that breaks the charm.

I don't think the GOP needs to do much changing on foreign policy issues. Everyone will be a Republican again when the Islamic world up and slaps us again.

In a later comment, I'll tell what I do think the GOP needs to change.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

And now, what the Republican Party needs to do:

I'll call it "astro-Reaganism." Conservatism in the United States needs to be seen as the driving force, gaining instead of losing ideological ground.

What could the private sector do with unrestricted development of space technologies? Imagine orbital launches becoming so weekly and daily common that it's cheap to hop on a orbiter for a quick flight New York to Paris - in half an hour. What if all it took to flex American muscle in the world was sub-orbital troop transports and satellite kinetic bombardment systems? We could drop telephone pole sized rods of tungsten steel from orbit, let gravity take over, and the impact on the target area would be the same as a multiple-megaton nuclear warhead without the radioactive mess.

America don't have to put up with shit. That's the message I want the Republicans to sell. To do that, they need to get government out of the way and let the mad scientists and captains of innovation do their thing.

SecondComingOfBast said...

Beamish-

I'm not promoting isolationism, I simply want to go back to the Washingtonian model, which is not isolationism. I am not proposing that we build a two hundred foot high electric fence around the country and never allow anybody in or out. I want bi-lateral trade and defense pacts, without the bureaucracy that comes with multi-national agreements.

As for your proposal, it sounds good, but do you really think it's a good idea to allow the private sector to engage in defense work unregulated? I know you don't like regulations, but there's something you are not evidently seeing. You are too quick to assume that all captains of industry are patriotic Americans, and that none of them would be inclined to sell their research to the highest bidder.

Rufus-

We are closer in some ways than you think in the matter of defense. A Washingtonian defense and foreign policy by its nature lessens the likelihood of foreign wars exponentially. Of course, there will always be that possibility, and then when it happens, you just gotta do what you gotta do. It depends on the circumstances.

I think also, when it comes to the matter of religion in politics, you need to realize that all religious people tend to promote their own particular values. Pagans, Muslims, Hindus, and Buddhists, they all do it. The fact that Christians do it should be no surprise, the only difference is, conservative Christians especially are more open about where they are coming from. Sometimes I agree with them, many times I don't, and other times I am somewhere in the middle, but regardless, I at least respect their honesty.

Even atheists tend to promote their own anti-religious views. This is nothing new.

The key is not promoting tolerance. Tolerance by its definition implies that you are merely putting up with something unpleasant that you had rather not think about. The real key is promoting understanding, but you have to walk on eggshells there too. There are no easy answers except to say that all worthwhile change happens gradually.

The main problem with conservative Christians is not that they want to force their views on others. They just don't want others views forced on them to the extent that it extends into their homes and interferes with how they raise their families. That's the major crux of the problem. They don't want social service agencies taking their kids away because they don't like the values they are teaching them, or denigrating their own beliefs in public. They have a lot of similar concerns too numerous to mention, and sometimes they overreact.

Understanding is a two-way street.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

As for your proposal, it sounds good, but do you really think it's a good idea to allow the private sector to engage in defense work unregulated? I know you don't like regulations, but there's something you are not evidently seeing. You are too quick to assume that all captains of industry are patriotic Americans, and that none of them would be inclined to sell their research to the highest bidder.

On the contrary, I'm counting on them to sell to the highest bidder.

An arms race would be good for business.

Anonymous said...

Why do we need the political parties anymore? Can't everybody just begin to vote INDEPENDENTLY (make politicians work for the people once again).

SecondComingOfBast said...

Suntiger-

I agree with that wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, it will never happen, as the First Amendment guarantees the right to free association.

Still, as long as there are political parties-which I'm afraid there always will be such-then you will always have cabals amounting to criminal conspiracies intended to control the nation, it's laws and wealth.

It would be immeasurably better were our political leaders to come from the bottom up, from the local communities, and rise up from there to the state level of governance. After twenty years or so, some would gain enough experience and at the same time, gather enough support and resources, to run for national office.

They would win or lose based on the merit of their views, positions, record, and experience, and how good they were at communicating their specific vision of leadership. They would not be obliged to adhere to a party platform that included positions they were obliged to promote, whether they believed in them or not, in order to acquire the funding and support necessary to run.

Then we would actually have a government that legitimately reflected the will of the people while adhering to the established precedents and requirements set forth in the constitution.

Our political culture would actually reflect the true values of America, as opposed to conducting a shell game every four years and calling it democracy.

Of course, as good as it sounds, you might as well wait for somebody to invent flying cars or horses, because its probably never going to happen.

Frank Partisan said...

Beamish: Read my latest post about Iran. Obama will be given right cover by Bush, when he speaks to Iran. Bush is approving the building of a miniconsulate there, as a first step.

Why is Obama talking to Iran?

1) The US lost in Iraq, and needs the help of Iran to disenrangle. Some accomodation has to be reached to calm the Saudis and Israel.

2) After Russia invaded Georgia, they are in position to sabotage any sanctions that are important.

Iran will be talked to, no matter which party is in power.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

Ren,

I'd hardly call it a loss in Iraq:

1.) Saddam Hussein, and more importantly, his international terrorist sponsoring Mukhabarat (intelligence services) no longer factor in world affairs

2.) The Iraqi people have by and large rejected Al Qaeda extremism, particularly in Sunni-dominated Anbar province, the only place it could take root.

3.) Moqtada al-Sadr discredits himself every time he flees to Tehran to avoid an airstrike that never comes. Iraqi Shia for the most part reject the theocratic mixture of religion with government that exists in Iran. Karbala and Najaf are the two holiest cities in Shia Islam, and the religious authority the clerics of those cities have should not be dismissed (unfortunately, this flips on al-Sadr being the likely sucessor to al-Sistani)

and perhaps the tactical victory for "neocon" democratic globalists:

4.) When the United States backs a UN Security Council resolution, you better take it serious.

SecondComingOfBast said...

It's just too bad the vast majority of the other member nations don't, including the Security Council. The UN should join NATO on the ash heap of history, only sooner. At least NATO served a valid function at one time.

What a sorry history. Hey, I have an idea. Let's create an artificial nation in the middle of a backwards, feudal style tribal group of religious theocracies and left leaning dictatorships, and then let's try to make them play nice when their neighbors attack them.

Let's follow this up by welcoming the most blood-soaked communist dictatorship in history into the group, and in doing so let's give in to their demands to eject the one nation that seceded from them and tried to create a counterbalancing capitalistic democracy.

In the meantime, let's allow vicious thugs to rape their nations and people and welcome them onto special councils that are supposed to promote human rights. When people point out the hypocrisy of having such nations on these councils, we'll just shrug and say "well, maybe they'll learn something from it". Most people are too fucking stupid to realize we're actually joking when we say things like that.

When the wars and attacks on civilians keep multiplying through the years in certain countries, we'll stand back and not really do anything unless the victims fight back. Then we'll demand they restrain their self-defense to a "proportional response". This way we'll keep the hostilities going on ad infinitum and we can point the finger of blame at the United States and make them the bad guys.

Then let's demand that every law passed by any member nation adheres to our standards, whether the people in the respective countries like it or not. After all, we are the educated elites of the world, and we know what's best for all the ignorant rabble, including the hillbillies and niggers in the United States.

When we do act tough with certain people, that would be good for our image. We can always go around behind people's backs and make sweetheart deals with tyrants and line our pockets. After all, we deserve some compensation for the work we do which is so unappreciated by the ignorant rabble we have to-for now-stoop to sharing our planet with.

Of course we are going to have to have a multi-national force to be able to be effective with all this, especially when we want to put on a big act of pretending to protect victims of genocide and tribal violence. We'll just herd them into makeshift refugee camps. That way we can help our good buddies stabilize their countries quicker, so we can have even more sweetheart deals.

Of course, that would be thankless work for our soldiers, but hey, they can always get them a piece of pussy from some of the young girls. If they have really had it as rough as they like to pretend they have, a gang rape here or there won't be so bad.

All in all, let's not ever really solve a god damn thing, and whenever possible let's actually make things ten times worse than what they would normally be, so we can pretend we have a serious problem that only we can solve.

That's your fucking UN. If Muhammed Atta and his gang had bombed their asses instead of the World Trade Center there would be a picture of Bin Laden hanging on my fucking wall right now.

Frank Partisan said...

The Maliki government is more pro-Iranian than if Sadr ran it. Iran's position between the two, is to support the strongest. The Saudis don't want a pro-Iranian government in Iraq. The US sent home Saddam's army, the counterforce to Iran.

Kirkuk isn't settled. Potentially violence between Kurds, and other ethnic groups there can be more violent, than the previous fighting in the Iraq War.

The US is being taken advantage of, by the new Russian imperialism. Putin is free to go into Georgia, because he knows the US is overextended. Just like Vietnam, the war is too costly.

Iran has to be accomodated, whether the US likes it or not. Even Bush is setting up such moves.

There are millions of refugees. The neighborhoods have been ethnically cleansed, and are walled.

To the subject at hand. McCain was no way going to be in Iraq for 100 years as the Dems claimed. There are not enough troops or dollars. The geopolitical realities trump campaign talk.

People voted against "winning" the war. Bush has given up, and is forced to apply diplomacy.

SecondComingOfBast said...

Ren-

The war became irrelevant to most voters. People voted the economy. It was the independent voters who swayed the election to Obama, and it was mainly due to that.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

PT,

Part of the "neocon" democratic globalist ideal is the UN is a nice place for the United States to go and tell people how things are going to be. Think Jeane Kirkpatrick, during the Reagan years.

Democratic globalists are themselves divided on the issue of working within the UN to bring democracy to the world, or abandoning the UN and forming a democracy only world club and let the UN die of economic starvation.

SecondComingOfBast said...

I was engaging in hyperbole with the bit about Bin laden, but nevertheless, the UN is one baby I wouldn't mind throwing out with the bath water.

I see one useful purpose for the UN. It gives a president like Reagan an opportunity to bypass the State Department when formulating foreign policy, which is not as easy as it sounds.

A better idea would just be to clear out the State Department and start with fresh blood.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

A better idea would just be to clear out the State Department and start with fresh blood.

Ding ding ding ding! We have a winner.

The State Department does need a clean sweep. First against the wall should be everyone there that thinks they know what they are talking about.

I can't wait for the Hillary Clinton as SecState confirmation hearings.