I’ve searched high and low for all the different links I could find pertaining to the discovery of the ancient cities of
Not that my previous post called The Last Days Of Sodom And Gomorrah is innaccurate, far from it. A perusal of various different links reveals the facts of the discoveries. Where it seems to get tricky is in the matter of the interpretation. But this is easily explained.
By far the best site I have found so far is to be found at the web-site listed for the Bblical Archaeology Society. The only problem with it is that the article about it was written in-get this now-1980.
In a sense, that is almost ancient history itself. Still, because it is the best site, and because it is an excruciatingly long link, and because the little link box in Bloggers post editor can’t be pasted into from copied links, or mine can’t anyway, I have supplied this link as a title to this post title. Just click onto the title of this post and it will take you there.
Another good site, which contains a link to the Smitsonian, is to be found here at Bibleandscience.com.Other links, such as here, verify the discovery, while pointing out that this is proof that the ancient cities were real, and, unbelievably, that the discoveries verify the Biblical account. Well, this is an easy enough claim to make, all you have to do is ignore, i.e. not mention, any of the evidence to the contrary.
Still others likwise verify the authenticity of the discovery, but also from a Christian perspective, in a negative way. These sites could not be the sites of the ancient cities because-get this, now-the timeline is improper. The cities were destroyed two hundred years before the Biblical cities, so Bab edh Dhra and Numeira can’t be
This one here describes the sites, but gives as the site of
I guess by now you get the message. The only thing for which there seems to be any kind of agreement is that five different places were discovered that were at one time ancient cities, that they were destroyed around roughly 2300 BC, and that is pretty much it.
I will stick to my thesis, as shown in the original post on the subject, for the following reasons.
1. There were five of them, the exact same number given in the Biblical account.
2. Bab edh Dhra (
3. It fits the story as well as could be hoped for, in fact, better than any scholar would have dared to hope for.
So why is this story so little known? Well, let’s see now. Because it doesn’t fit the Biblical story, perhaps? Sure, I know I said it did, just now. But there are parts that don’t fit.
The largest of the cities, Bab edh Dhra (
Yet, this was a city that, along with the other four, according to the Bible, engaged in an armed rebellion against their overlord Cherdolaomer, the King of Babylon, and his allies, so it must have been huge, right?
Well, if you believe the Bible is the infallible word of God, you’d damned well better, by golly.
What seems to have actually happenned is as I said, at the time the stories were circulated a mythology was created to explain the barely visible ruins. To put it in laymans language, they made the shit up. There was a purpose to it, of course, but you have to wonder just how authentic it can be or how well it was believed by the perpetrators of the myth when they didn’t even bother to make up names for the places that would make sense as being descriptive of their founding, nature, character, or environment.
No one would found a city and call it
And in the midst of researching these links I made another discovery, one that is just as unlikely. And that is, if I were the King of Sodom, and discovered that my name, Bera, meant “Son Of Evil”, I think I’d be a little like the “Boy Named Sue” of Johnny Cash hit song fame, I’d be wanting to kick my old mans ass. Unlike old Sue, I’d change my name.
So what happenned obviously is that the ancient Israelites took the old story of the destroyed cities and made a myth out of it in which, of course, their founding ancestors and their God played a vital, pivotal role. Nothing at all mysterious about it. It was slander on a grand scale, no doubt, of the true cities inhabitants. On the other hand, you have to look at all this in perspective. By the time these stories were circulated amongst the Israelites, the destruction of the cities, would have occurred-take a deep breath now-
No less than seven hundred years, at least, before the stories were told. Think about that. That would be like me finding the ruins of an old Indian settlement in Kentucky that had been destroyed in the year 1300 AD and, not having the slightest knowledge of the history of the settlement, the true nature of it’s destruction, or the character and culture of the people, to say nothing of having limited at best knowledge of archaeology or anthropology, etc, I devised a story to explain the catastrophe.
How acurrate could I possibly be? Therefore, how accurrate could the original purveyors of the myth of
So there you have what is in my opinion the answer to the question as to why this discovery isn’t so well known. These ruins affirm the story of
Therefore, you have people that get excited over the discovery of a rock formation on a mountain in
This, however, is not a false alarm. This, my friends, is a five alarm fire, and it burns to ashes any legtimacy as to claims for the literalist interpretation of the Bible. And that is all too appropriate in this case especially.
It is valid, historical proof, not of the Biblical accounts or their accurracy, but rather is proof of something more substantial-the cities of Bab edh Dhra and Numeira are one irrefutable snapshot in time, and are proof of the historical evolution of mythology and religion.
True scientists and archaeologists-people that actually love and revere the truth, in other words-can be forgiven for taking the opportunity to conduct their work in private, in peace, and away from the controversy of the glaring lights and accussations born of religious fanaticism. The religous fanatics, for their part, will be all too happy in this case to allow them to do so.
14 comments:
Really good post. A fun read.
You should send the link to James Randi.
Thanks for listing the links for me. I wasn't doubting your word, I was just curious about the findings. I take nothing in the bible seriously. The bible is like the last person to hear the message in a game of gossip.
And I love it when a myth is blown all to hell by science.
Again, thank you
Renegade-thanks, I appreciate that. As for Randi, I don't know. I think if he took the time to read my blog description, under the title, he would probably decide I'm not the kind of blogger he would care to promote. Still, who knows?
Pissed Off Patricia-It was no problem, glad to do it, and I didn't misunderstand your request. In fact, I was happy to take the opportunity to do a follow up post.
I wish Blogger would fix their link box in their post editor, the way it is now you have to type every single character to create a link if you use it. They should fix it so you can copy and paste into it, but so far they haven't seen fit to do that, though thankfully you can copy and paste when you put the links in your post titles.
At any rate, it does in some cases, this one being an example, make for a better post when you can supply some links. It makes for a better all around post. So it was no problem, and I promise you I didn't take it personally.
This is fascinating stuff, Patrick, and you've done an impresive amount of research. Christianity is full of ridiculousness and the "UnCHANGED Word of GOD thing"- the bible being all whole and troooooo, is one of the main reasons I left the church.
Incidentally, I have problems with links sometimes too, dammit.
They are a pain in the ass ain't they? It's easy if you can copy and paste, but if yoiu can't and you are dealing with a long link it can be very frustrating.
Glad you liked the post. I'm going to follow up on it, and will probably be doing more Bible stuff as well from time to time, but more theory and my own ideas and interpretations than research.
Well, isn't that what any kind of religious/ spiritual stuff really should be? Your own ideas and interpretation? oh I know, according to most christians, that phrase makes me a big ol'
blasphemer, but even they claim to have a "personal" relationship with christ. If that's not their own idea or interpretation, don't know what is.
Most Christians would deny that, but when you stop to think about it, just what is the reason individuals gravitate to a particular religion or denomination? Of course, they are attracted to whichever one comes closest to their own ideas of who and what God is, and how they themselves view sacred scriptures, etc.
HOly crap, you did some work!
Hi found ya through another blog. I recently saw something on the history channel about this. It was very interesting.
Thanks for a great post.
Now, Autogato, it sounds like you might be implying that I'm usually a lazy blogger. You might be somewhat right about that. But some posts are worth going that exrtra mile for, wouldn't you agree?
Hi, Lilfeathers. My magical, psychic powers tells me that you found my blog in the comments over on Hillbilly White Trash.
Okay, actually it is the magic of my site meter that told me that. Anyway, thanks for stopping by, and glad you enjoyed the post.
Thanks for the info about the History Channel, I wasn't aware of that, as I dropped expanded cable some months back. Hopefully, they have some info on their web-site.
U r goddamned right. They made up the stories. Why else wud the names mean 'burnt' or a 'heap of ash' or something. N lemme tell u this. If the christian Bible gives u this shit then what can u expect from the islamic Koran which is a copied n twisted version of the Bible!
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