I have come to the conclusion, once again, that Christian conservatives are all pretty much completely full of fucking shit, in at least some ways. Now I could write a book about this topic, so for the time being I'll just stick to one topic-that should keep this rant from getting too out of hand. The topic, of course, is the Christian view of abortion. Naturally, they are against it, and what is even more maddenning, a good lot of them, maybe even the majority of them, are agaisnt it no matter the circumstances, can not find any reason whatsoever where the procedure could even slightly be justified. And, if they had their way, of course it would be outlawed. Oh, they will tell you they would merely seek to overturn Roe v. Wade, which wouldn't exactly outlaw abortion, it would just make it a matter of states rights. Of course what they don't mention, or if they do it is rarely, is that once Roe v. Wade were overturned, they would send an army of lawyers to every state of the union and pour unmentionable sums of money into political action committees the sole purpose of which would be to convince (bribe) state lawmakers into outlawing abortion in their individual states. No state politician would be spared their hypocritical posturing. Every state Senator, Representative, Governor, etc. would be constantly deluged and beset with entreaties from numberless voters egged on by their ministers, rabbis, imams, and priests, and all the lay members and parishioners and activists that could possibly be mustered. The issue would be far from settled, it would in fact be more in your face than it currently is,than it ever was before, and would in fact be an impossible hindrance to any real work being done on any other issue, as so much time would be taken up on just this one.
Violence directed at and by both sides would be ratcheted up. There would be an increase in clinic bombings, in physicians and staff attacks and murders, and in some cases I fear the riot police would have to be called. The television stations would be even more saturated with advertisements from both sides. It could get so bad, in fact, that a new Congressional law might have to be passed which would of course necessitate yet more series of legal wranglings and court procedures, all the way up to the Supreme Court.
And all for what? Because a bunch of moronic hypocrits think they have the God given duty to protect the unborn. So what happens or what would happen if all the unborn were saved from the oh so evil abortion clinics? In a good many cases of course, they would be completely forgotten, and in all too many cases relegated to a life of privation, of poverty, in some cases even destitution. A good many of them would doubtless become criminals, and live entirely criminal lives. A good many of them could conceivably spend three quarters of their precous, God-given lives behind bars.
For every potential Einstein or Mozart that might be saved, there could be at least an even number of Hitlers and Mansons. But even this is incidental compared to the one aspect that makes the Christian conservative concern for the unborn so illogical from the Christian point of view.
According to Christian dogma, at least according to most Christians beliefs, any unborn human, and as far as that goes any child below what is termed the "age of accountability", who dies before reaching said age of accountability, will be guaranteed an eternity in heaven, an eternal immortal life of blissful ecstasy in the company of the saints, the angels, Jesus, etc. What more could anyone ask for? What more could anyone hope for?
Yet, by the same token, most Christians adhere to the belief that the majority of humans who reach the Age of Accountability-are destined for hell. Not necessarrily predestined on an individual level, only that it just so happens that most of these people will end up going to hell. "For narrow is the path that leads to salvation, and few there be that walk thereon" to paraphrase the scriptural saying, "but broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there be that walk thereon."
In other words, Christian conservatives are, according to their own beliefs, according to the tenets of their own faith, trying to "save" fetuses in the womb from an eternity in heaven, and ensuring that-in the majority of cases-they end up squarely in an eternal state of punishment, an excruciating torture and misery known as hell.
It has occurred to me at some point this would be a good topic for a dark comedy, a play in which a sanctimonious self righteousd hypocritical Christian dies and to his dismay finds himself in hell. He pleads for mercy from God, who sends Christ along with a number of beautiful, happy looking, cherubic spirits, who inform him they are the spirits of those the former minister, while living, saved from the abortion clinics. They all tell him of their lives. One was a rake, the other was a good person all his life, one was an addict, and one was even a murderer. "I murdered my best friend, James Wilmore," he explains sadly, "while in a drunken rage. But I turned from my sins and became saved by the grace of the Good Lord, Christ".
He notices that Christ merely looks at him quizzically as the others assert that they too were saved, and now are happilly assurred of an eternity in heaven.
"Then why am I doomed for hell, Lord?" the preacher asks. "have I not prophesied in thy name, have I not cast out demons, and performed good works in thine service"
"Depart from me" Jesus answers sadly but firmly, "For I never knew ye."
Suddenly the minister finds himself in a pit of hell and is surrounded by vengeful demonic creatures, more than twenty of them, who inform him that they are the spirits of the other people the minister had saved from being aborted. "If it were not for you, one hissed, I could be in heaven right now, but thanks to you this is where I must spend my eternity, tormented like all the others with excruciating heat and sickening vile odors, and demonic beings torturing us as a way to take their own spite out on us due to their own sufferring."
They then start out toward him, and he runs in horror, falling and cutting himself as sickening tastes and odors assail him along with the stiffling heat. He finds a brief respite in a cavrnous room, in which there is one other person who suffers, who cringes in fear and terror, like himself. The minister assures him he need not fear, that he is being tormented just as he was.
"What is your name?", the man asks the minister. The minister tells him, then asks him what his name is.
"James Wilmore", the man suddenly hisses.
And so it goes. Of course, I firmly believe that most people don't put enough thought into their positions to realize just how incongrous they can be. Most people only do what they are told. And of course most in the Republican Party support this position, not because they are so concerned with doing the so-called "will of God", but because, in my opinion, this is just a good way to insure there are as many chumps as possible to fight in the wars and slave for the corporate bosses.
Abortion should stay safe, legal, and hopefully rare, because hopefully one day life will be worth being born into. The way things stand now, however, if there is truth to the theory of reincarnation, and if there is any chance of me coming back into this sorry fucking mess, please-don't do me any favors.
Nor am I in any sense overly concerned about the aspect of so-called "abortion on demand". I look at it this way. I love to eat pussy, but unfortunately there ain't nothing that smells worse than a pussy on the pill, or a pussy that has been fixed. I don't like the saddle, I like to ride bareback, as they say. And no one, surgeon or otherwise, is getting near my balls with a scalpel, if I can help it. So that leaves just straight, unprotected sex.
Now you tell me-am I the kind of person who needs to be bringing a child into the world? I dont think so.
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I say... if you oppose abortion, you better be adopting some kids.
And I hope you're getting tested! Don't wanna spread any nasty shit.
I ain't really like that, most of the time, but sometimes I am. But it makes a hell of a point, don't it, that being that a hell of a lot of people are that way-especially teens-and they don't need to be having kids.
Besides, when you're really in the mood, you are not thinking that clearly, like, "oh maybe I better go grab a condom", right? Maybe teens just starting out do because they are anxous and nervous about it anyway, but after the first few times, they are all up and raring to go, and as with most adults, being horney is not conducive to clear thinking.
Show me a person who can think that clearly and that controlled in a sexual situation and I'll show you somebody that aint that good in the sack.
By the way, speaking of somehting making me horney, I really like your new picture. I mean, I REALLY like your new picture.
A note on "age of accountability":
According to Catholics, Lutherans, and Methodists; A child who dies before he/she reaches the "age of accountability is judged by his/her parents "state"-saved/unsaved-at that time (being lenient if the parents are married and are not actively sinning at the time towards the more saved of the two). Considering that all three of these "denominations"-Catholics aren't actually a denomination-believe abortion is murder and that the mother is actively/passively involved makes her an unforgiven murderer: lends to the idea that her child/fetus is going straight to hell reguardless of whether she repents later, or not.
Most Christians have the absurd belief that all (except REALLY bad people like Hitler, Stalin, etc.) people go to heaven/purgatory when they die (contrary to stated church doctine) and are only, later, at the second coming judged whether God is going to let them into heaven or send them to hell.
Actually, I'm a lutheran and we definitely do not think that children should be judged according to their parents' sins. Actually, we think the exact opposite.
And, horny or not, I've never failed to protect myself. No sex is good enough to die for.
"Actually, I'm a lutheran and we definitely do not think that children should be judged according to their parents' sins. Actually, we think the exact opposite."
My how often you people think, not know or believe, but think. Are you very familiar with Luther's Large Catechism? You think yourself wise enough to tell God what he should or shouldn't do?
I don't really care one way or the other, just was surprised that that was taught in confirmation class. If it is wrong, it's not my fault.
I'm saying we don't think that way, and that's all I've claimed. Nor is it taught here and yes, I am familiar with Luther's writings as religion is a mandatory school subject here and I've studied it since I was 6 AND I've done my confirmation school too. Are you wise enough to know better?
You wrote "according to Lutherans..." and I'm merely pointing out you cannot make such a claim.
"My how often you people think, not know or believe, but think."
What's this supposed to mean? Who "you people"? Are you talking down on me merely cus I'm a lutheran/believer? Yes I THINK, I THINK a lot, and I'm sorry if you think I'm not entitled to use that word because of my religion!
Just what I always wanted, to get a discussion going. Must be doing something right. I don't even mind if you guys don't play nice with each other.
One thing, though, Anonymous-ain't nothing wrong with thinking. A person that doesn't utilize that ability can pretty much be easily lead to "believe" that they "know" just about anything.
I'm a Christian and I don't think abortion is murder.
Also, Lutherans don't make up their sins or think that by doing that you can erase them and go to heaven. We don't confess either. Luther's most important finding was God's mercy - that only he can decide whether you're going to heaven or not, and there's nothing you can do about it except love God. I would assume God doesn't need our little favours.. I'm sure he knows whether I sin or not and I don't have to go tell him that. To me, it's enough that I know whether I've done something wrong, and my attitude, not actions, determine whether I'm on the right path or not.
Oh, and I guess I should mention that late term abortions are illegal in Finland, except for good medical reasons. A woman can decide to have an abortion during the first 3 months of her pregnancy, and after that only if the doctor agrees it's medically necessary. I'm pretty happy with this system, because it keeps abortions safe and legal, and helps get rid of those cases that are morally suspicious, like abortions of a fetus that would be born in the next few days.
Abortion isn't really an issue here anyway.. I think our teenage abortion rate just went down and it was already the lowest in western Europe. Not sure about the overall rates.
Actually, although this is probably better saved as a topic for another post, I too am against abortion, at least abortion on demand. But I strongly disagree with the state being brought into it.
I would much prefer to offer sound counsel to a woman to encourage her to have her children, without condemning her if she chooses not to, for whatever reason.
I just feel it is none of my business, nor anyone elses, to put it simply.
I don't think I would ever get an abortion, but I would never want to make that choice for someone else. Some men have been whining lately about not getting a say in whether or not a woman aborts a baby that they helped her conceive. That sounds like a sneaky delaying tactic to me. If a woman has to get permission before she can have an abortion, it can take too long, so that by the time she gets the permission it is too late.
Infant Baptism always strikes me as more of a ritual than anything else. A way of conferring guardianship by a Saint on the child, or to protect the child from evil influences. Remember, when this was originated people were a lot more superstitous.
ALso, some people while not believing an unsaved infant will go to hell, still did not believe they would go to heaven, but be caught in something called Limbo, either for eternity or until some specified unknown date.
Of course, now, even Cathoics for the most part will say that an unbaptized child, and presumably a fetus in the womb (since they insist it is a living being with a soul)would go to heaven at if it dies. As such, the Catholic Church recently changed it's teachings on the subject, and now says there is no Limbo.
So once again, like it or not, when a Christian prevents an abortion, he has a kind of ownership over that childs soul, and theoretcially, if that child goes to hell, the Christian hasn't done the condemned soul in question any favors.
Anonymous, believe me, the number of men that will want to prevent their girlfriends from getting an abortion of a child they have fathered, is probably a small minority of the total of such men. What with child support laws being as they are, the vast majority probably can't get their girlfriends to the abortion clinics quickly enough.
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